If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. [Joel Mandel, one of the managers,] was informed well after the fact through communications with various house staff and security that Depp had been extremely volatile and had sometimes gotten physical with Heard. Still would be considered SA though. idk. this. apparently saying he wants to rape her corpse is just angry ranting. Sometimes it's important to wear the same thing twice". Same. They both got hurt by each other, but in the end Johnny is the victim and Amber the abuser. Amber Heard Blamed For The End Of Jason Momoa's Marriage byJacob Dressler January 16, 2022 It's recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. Lets revisit this cover story in The Hollywood Reporter, which ran in December 2020, one month after Depp lost his U.K. libel suit which declared him, essentially, a wife-beater. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. I dont like the term reactive abuse because I dont think that a victims reaction to being abused should be categorized as any kind of abuse. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. While Heard, on the stand, explained how she learned to cover up her bruises Day two for me was always the trickiest; thats when you get the most sensitivity . I do want to add though, the ppl on social media dogpiling on her and making fun of and mocking SA allegations are incredibly damaging and triggering to real victims and is not okay. [Stop] changing the narrative to suit your love for Depp. All rights reserved. Amber struggles with mental health issues and Johnny with substance abuse. After that incident, Johnny understood what happened and was incredibly apologetic, and tried to set boundaries to leave the room before it could escalate into physical violence again. When #JohnnyDepp testified #AmberHeard was staring at him and has done throughout. But I am genuinely in good faith surprised that this is not the consensus, so perhaps Im missing something. You call "victim-blaiming" when their relationship was seemingly destructive from both sides. If he hit her and it left a bruise why does it matter how big the bruise was? one of the biggest facts imo is that there are no photos that show any damage to amber. I think shes narcissistic and liar and tried to convince everyone that she was the victim. Shes basically a brunette AH, and completely insufferable to be around. they like him because hes a popular, power multimillionaire who is also a man. Again though, that would be a mutual fight, and him using way more force than necessary to stop her, not him chasing her down and beating her. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Ad Choices. I believe both of them are believable and unbelievable but I dont not believe her at all. bruises dont like to be touched, Depp leaned into his lawyer and smirked. As the testimony continued, he seemed to have taken his sunglasses off, but continued to avoid looking up, instead appearing to doodle. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. And then she hit a point of no return and had to continue with that narrative. As he smirks and laughs as Heard testifies to horrific abuse, to Depp forcibly searching her vagina for cocaine and, in another incident, raping her with a liquor bottle. Why do people believe him? Its time to draw a line. Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. this. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. advertising. Media organisations even resorted to digging up photos of her smiling in an attempt to prove that she couldnt possible have been abused. It hurts SA victims with PTSD that actually struggle with memory (both amber and her reactionaries). She sounded rehearsed but she had talking points, she made sure to keep saying eggshells, walking on eggshells, or pattern, pattern of behaviour.. I dont want to despair for humanity. Talk about mockery. I dont really buy that, personally, but it could be. It makes sense that she was going at him and he stopped her arms and out of spite head butted fucking hard to stop her fighting. All things that are equally horrible and disturbing. I think he loved her and was trying to protect her but to each their own. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard's ongoing trial is now concluding its fourth week. I didn't think anyone would believe me. I believe her side and I believe some of his side. Amber Heard came off as less authentic than Johnny Depp on the stand, experts told Insider. So he testified that after he severed a finger to the bone (she says he did it, he says she did it) and with blood from the severed finger he wrote messages on walls, mirrors and lampshades. They all took drugs. Irish sport images provided by Inpho Photography Like, I feel like Im going crazy because sure its not a complete black eye or anything but if I saw someone show up looking like that I would think they had been in a fight or accident or something? There are no medical records corroborating any of this. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the time despite photos, videos and texts between Heard and Depps assistant that suggested otherwise. Does that mean he couldnt be? And I didnt see myself as a victim. Despite her credibility issues, the experts said Heard was likely to win the case. They were both completely toxic though and the trial is a mess . Were always quick to believe a girl when shes abused. I also believed that amber misconstrued many of his intentions as a result of bpd and Johnny didnt know how or chose not to understand that. Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. Completely believable. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the reactive abuse that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. Legal documents obtained by People Magazine show that Depps former managers at TMG were aware of the actor having gotten physical with Amber Heard. Okay, but the whole writing creepy ss messages on mirrors and lampshades with a bloody severed finger isnt a question of fact or a question of credibility. Thanx. It's interesting because in some regards we are conditioned to believe her. On Monday, she testified that Depp, more than once, grabbed her by the pubic bone and taunt[ed] me, asking me if I thought I was so fing tough tough like a man now?. There are no perfect victims. No human is 100% evil, not even Amber Heard. Fighting for Heard is going to set back feminism just as much as this case already has, I guarantee you. Are you listening to her testimony? Hes nasty and disturbed and shes nasty and disturbed he hurt her and she hurt him and I believe her. So, why believe their testimonies? They had many, many heated arguments. If he had beaten her like she says and there were pictures I don't think there would be a trial. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should believe all women, just not Amber Heard.. When any women challenge them, they get shut down with insults about being old and fat and jealous of Amber. Lawrence was also asked her opinion on Depps testimony. After all, its hard to keep the small stuff straight when youre telling lots of big lies. They both sucked. They mock a woman they refuse to believe at all even though false reports of domestic violence are extremely rare. I'm not buying the cavity search story especially after Raquel Pennington told a completely different story about the Hicksville campfire. I'm mindful that these two are actors. Additional comment actions. I think its because he never stood up for Lisas friend Johnny Depp & allowed her into their lives. Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are going head-to-head in a US defamation case. Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet Announce Marriage Split The Hollywood Reporter https://t.co/5t3nPFKm9f, N G E L (@MrsAngelMiller) January 13, 2022, What the F*CK did Amber Heard do now? But I mean, calm down Johnny. This is imo spot on and exactly what I believe. juviderm. They bring gifts hell never open. Dont believe me? Those who know me can tell you about the passion that I have not just for my job and the company that I work for but . But I think we are conditioned to believe him and not her. She was dragged into this. For more engaging celebrity content, visit 7Life on Facebook. The exes have been involved in multiple legal battles since their split. They would either continue being silent or speak out in support of Heard. But as for a perfect villain well, Johnny Depps doing some of his best work in ages. All Depps team has to do is say something like Amber had over 50k photos on her phone. Psychologist Cooper Lawrence talks about Amber Heards testimony on Sunrise. Johnny never would have brought this if there was evidence. Also it puts the onus unfairly on the survivor. I havent met one person yet just wondering if there are any out there. As the trial's fourth week rolls on in Fairfax, Virginia, the Aquaman actress took the stand on Wednesday as she detailed her allegations, and said that the past few weeks had been "the most painful and difficult thing I've ever gone through. How about yall take that energy to call for her to get help and bring awareness to trauma and mental disorders instead!! The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. Im not sure that I completely agree with this, think we are more conditioned to believe her which is why he was canceled and she went on to do AquaMan. In an emergency, call 000. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Completely believable. I dont think my mind can be changed on that & no that is very extreme and disturbing but the name calling i have most definitely done while angry ranting. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online.. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit . He admitted to cutting his own finger. pic.twitter.com/5JDYbVWuMQ. His 15 year live-in girlfriend and mother to his children as well as Wynonna Ryder (dated 4 years) have come out in his defense. Especially after being arrested for domestic abuse with her wife a few years back. Also, it is not true that he was never violent. But guess what? Depp had previously lost a 2020 libel case against British tabloid The Sun, which had labeled the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory star a "wife-beater," in reference to Heard's allegations of domestic abuse. This one require some mental gymnastic or maybe a blind faith. For example: amber has expressed in many interviews that she didnt want to be seen ONLY as a sex symbol. Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. Mind you, any evidence supporting that he was physically abusive has been largely discredited. Unable to find it he searches ambers clothes and body, probably not gently. And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. Both have stated that they dont believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore its their own fault if they are harmed by their victim. Both have also said that even if Amber is lying, anyone who supports Depp is a misogynist. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Unless youve been living under a rock for the past few weeks, youll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. She took a sedative to knock her out in the same house with her abuser. Of course not. The bottle story is an obvious lie. He is using such vile language and accusations against her in this very message just so he can protect her in the last paragraph of the same message. And as if he had been the one to actually clean it up. She embellished and dramatized for support, love, and attention. He knows there is no evidence hence the lawsuit. "I have been told abusers stare at victims in court," Nazir wrote. Two are women who believe that AH being abusive is the "reactive abuse" that the psychologist used to excuse her actions. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Idk, wish I had time tonight to watch some of her testimony. I just feel like if somebody severed my finger Id be so mad I probably would too. But the more I watched the trial the more I just wanted to cry for him & give him a big hug for all the things he was put through. MermaidsHaveCloacas 6 mo. Nazir's personal assessment was echoed in a wave of comments shared by fans of The Pirates of the Caribbean star Depp. you cannot possibly say this about everyone who supports Johnny Depp bc thats just stupid. We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. I just believe Johnny over Amber, thats all. Reading about Amber Heard on TMZ, this is what jumps out at me: "Victim" "Allegedly" No other logical explanation. The fact that Johnny is kind to his fans, or he looks very gentlemanly . Jason Momoa & Lisa Bonnet are divorcing. If either one of them feels justified in any of the things theyve done in this relationship, they need professional intervention on an ongoing (probably permanent) basis. He shot himself in the face.. 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