In person, that voice pours out in great glittering riffs (on politics and personal space, on AIDS, the 80s, New York, and everything in between) that set Lebowitz atop our list of dream dinner-party guests and probably put her in the running for greatest talkers ever. I always liked people who are older. Frances Ann Lebowitz ( / libwts /; [1] born October 27, 1950) is an American author, [2] public speaker, [3] [4] and occasional actor. Now I hate the smell of pot. In the early 1970s, Andy Warhol hired Lebowitz as a columnist for his magazine Interview, where she wrote a column, I Cover The Waterfront. Im happy none of it was ever published. High Times: Do you watch anything else on TV besides Family Feud? I still cant type. High Times: What brands have you smoked since then? This idea that people have to love and understand each other is absurd. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. And soon she had a book offer from a fan in publishing. So I would lie in bed and make up book reports about books that I made up. I think I first came across it in one of the Bronts. I do remember that the worst movie I ever saw was called Four Flies on Gray Velvet, with Mimsy Farmer, one of your great loves. Everybody else was. Im going out. Im the only person left who is this irresponsible. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. This is not England. But for I Cover the Waterfront, ordinarily I would go out to dinner with Marc the night beforeand when I say dinner, I mean some hamburger place or somethingand I would think of ideas, and then I would go home. Knowledge of a culture. Thats not writing. LEBOWITZ: Money. I never had any skilled jobs because I never had any skills. The Modern Farmer came on before Sunrise Semester, and it was about farming. In her study at home in North Bennington, 2018. Lebowitz's rise to fame began around 1972, when Andy Warhol hired her for Interview magazine to write reviews of bad movies before she expanded into cultural criticism in her column, "I Cover the Waterfront." She released two well-received collections of essays, Metropolitan Life (1978), followed by Social Studies (1981). CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? I suppose that my work is always mourning something, the loss of a paradisenot the thing that comes after you die, but the thing that you had before. Fran readily agreed, as she was banned from most movie screenings because of her old column, Best of the Worst. Fran Lebowitz and Martin Scorsese Seek a Missing New York in 'Pretend It's a City' The Netflix series, featuring Lebowitz and directed by Scorsese, offers acerbic commentary and a sense of. Tolerance is really a better thing than understanding. And I was really distraught. Okay? So I went to his studio several times while he was making the ballet. At that point one of the boys I was with realized I was feeling better and got really mad at me for insisting on going to the hospital, and he screamed at me, which made me perfectly crazy by the time I got to see the psychiatrist. I wouldnt say that I dislike the young. When I was really young I wanted to be a toll taker because I thought they kept the money. LEBOWITZ: When I move, I do. I know Ive said this before, but the audience for the artswhether it was for writing or films . I styled myself to look like no one else. Lebowitz: I had a parakeet when I was four called Polka Dotty, and I killed Polka Dotty by eating its food. June 15, 2021 6:30 AM PT. I never would start writing before midnight and I would finish at, like, seven in the morning. She is a presence; everything begins to happen when she talks. I took popular tunes, like Michael Row the Boat Ashore, and wrote lyrics having to do with my family. But I just cant smile at people for money. He packs them, and then every time you move, they have to be put in different ways. And just think how fantastic New York would be. Used Planes comes out every single month. Once a girl was sitting on the window ledge smoking a cigarette and the matron walked in and the girl jumped out the window. In an essay specially commissioned for the podcast, Aisha Sabatini Sloan describes rambling around Paris with her father, Lester Sloan, a longtime staff photographer for Newsweek, and a glamorous woman who befriends them. Id like to be the admissions director of New York. The effect of AIDS was like a war in a minute country. It actually works here. In Andy Warhol's Interview: Volume 1: Best of the First Decade 1969-1979, edited by Sara J . She said, You know what its like being with you? One of them was my columns. Glenn OBriens interview with the iconic Fran Lebowitz from the August, 1978 issue of High Times magazine. It is boring and it is arithmetic. I hit my limit at 19, and I havent had any since. Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . My idea of pure hell. It was actually a show for farmers. You published Metropolitan Life in installments in Interview. But this was the 60s, and there were all of these Harvard medical students there learning to be doctors, so all the doctors in the hospital had hair down to their shoulders and granny glasses. I think I will learn to type. Ray Millands head was on Rosie Grier. And especially the ones that I knew. So just think, if there were, say, only 10 percent of the hotels that exist now, there would be all these apartments for people who live in New York, as opposed to people visiting New York. Too insubstantial. Her hundreds of plants are layered into a composition of informal design, expressive of her refined aesthetic and untroubled eccentricity. Then I moved here. Correct? CLEMENTE: Do you think youre the manifestation of integrity? Lebowitz will appear on stage for four performances only . Because I could not possibly be in a relationship now for more than six days. Fabulous. I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. Maybe 20 people had read it, and he acted like it was in the Daily News. I think I got to 2, and then I slept 22 hours. But, I mean, no one talked about money. Maybe Ill donate them to one of those film schools in Los Angeles for a tax write-off. The novel is reputedly about rich people who want to be artists, and artists who want to be rich people. So I would go to these AIP screenings. I guess it didnt go. It was like the myth where if a girl gets pregnant and takes the boy to court, if three other boys come into court and say that they had slept with her, they would all get off scot-free. I said, How could I help you choreograph a ballet? Initially, she covered "Best of the Worst Movies," but later changed the name of her column to "I Cover the . Lebowitz: I went through a period of watching $20,000 Pyramid, but it was too frustrating because every day I won $20,000 and I have no money. Fran Lebowitz, who is featured "Pretend It's a City" on Netflix. And he did those illustrations. Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz are trying to remember how they met. By Meredith Blake Staff Writer. She was a hot little number in 1978 . By Susan Devaney. Lebowitz: I was unceremoniously expelled from prep school in my senior year for no apparent reason. In time, she put herself on another path. References This page was last . By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. 5. The most interesting one I went to was for a company that wanted to make a vodka for women. I now dread the getting-it-typed part as much as I dread the writing part. Lebowitz: No. CLEMENTE: One of my favorite quotes of yours is when you said that youve never been in a relationship for longer than six months, because you didnt want to switch from boredom to contempt. One is that deers are rats. On the Boston University phone you dialed N-E-E-D and a concerned Jewish graduate student came over and took me to Mass. And then they would get it, and I would get these polite little letters back rejecting it. He wrote a lot of books. The idea that New York is over makes some people angry, but it makes me laugh. Children played marbles on it. The knowing audience also died and no longer exists in a real way. Scorsese ventures that it was at a literary party on New York City . LEBOWITZ: The first thing I would do is say, I dont care if New York avoided bankruptcy by substituting tourism for the garment business, which is what happened. Thats good for at least an hour of not writing. Alison Roman Dishes on Resy, Air Fryers, and Erewhon, The Gatekeepers of New Yorks Most Coveted Tables Tell All, Kathryn Newton and Paul Rudd on the Joys of Being Extra, Alex Cooper Calls Her Daddy Mel Ottenberg at the Prada Show in Milan. I never saw those issues. Truckstop Women was one of my favorites. I often think of the time before my brothers were bornand this might sound very childish, but I dont careas this paradise of my mother and me always being together. Lebowitz: Ill never make it as a typist. Im very vilified for this, I have to say. LEBOWITZ: That was later, for my next column, I Cover the Waterfront. That was after I met Marc. He said theyd fix it. She has two children from her marriage to the composer Allen Shawn, the son of the former New Yorker editor William Shawn, and in the living room she displays on a tableproudly, apologeticallyproductions from the arts-and-crafts camps and classes that her son and daughter attended over the years. Her first published work, movie and book reviews, appeared in that magazine when she was twenty years old. LEBOWITZ: No. CLEMENTE: The blood pressure will drop. I have about ten thousand. One day I went downstairs to eat Polka Dottys food, my mother told me that Polka Dotty had flown south for the winter. General with two other people who were also smashed out of their minds. I have to move the lamp to the desk. I also have the Family Feud home game, but I cant figure out how to play it. That was on the second floor. The idea wasnt that I would establish myself and then have the rest of my family join me. CLEMENTE: Since we are New Yorkers, we should talk real estate. I got on this list, and I went and discussed products. For the movie review columns, I always knew exactly what I was going to write aboutthe movies. When I was young, I liked romance. There were two funny ones that were real crowd pleasers when I used to read them. 1. Her essays and topical interviews on subjects ranging from the difficulty of finding an acceptable apartment to the art of freeloading at weekend houses have come to be regarded as classics of literary humor and social observation. I was caught smoking, and I didnt have the cigarette in my hand or smoke coming out of my mouth, and they suspended me anyway, so it turned out not to be true, just suspicion was enough. He had only the biggest movies, and he acted like I was affecting the box office. I used to steal hers. For some reason, I decided to cut off my hair and bleach it blond. If someone else has to write, then you know you have a willing companion to talk to on the phone for hours and hours while they put off their writing. Bloomberg was always bragging how many hotels were being builtI remember seeing him on the news, saying, And this is the nine millionth hotel in Queens. Queens! And you would have cash at the end of the day. When I moved out nine years later, there was no ceiling in the bathroom. I firmly believe that. Lebowitz: I was a behavior problem as far as talking. They all say, Oh I did it this afternoon, or, Oh, Im finished. In those days you smoked whatever pot you had that day, so rather than share with others I smoked as much as I could humanly smoke. I really wanted someone to save me. Her big, broad-frame glasses evoke the Italian movie stars of the sixties. Monday June 7 2021. We went to the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Connecticut and interviewed the star of the play, and I wrote this incredibly bitchy Rex Reedish interview with her and got an outraged letter from her press agent. The way the admissions director of Harvard decides who goes to Harvard, Id like to decide who comes here. But when I say no kitchen, I mean no sink. Two rare items of Andy Warhol: 1) Pop goes art - Institut fr Popkultur - 1990 - Box - Contains several items: - Glossy folder of loose-leaf art-paper reproductions. I would stand in front of the class and report on a book I had made up. I like that Oscar Wilde. High Times: If someone offered you an hour TV special that you could do anything with, what would you do? But, third of all, I used to say, I just cant go into a deli and order a roast beef sandwich and give them this.. But I know a lot about them because its impossible not to. My first action on coming to New York was walking into Grove Press, plunking down the manuscript and demanding they publish it. I dressed in old clothes, thrift-shop clothes. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. High Times: What was your best subject in school? ), occasional actor ("Law & Order . What are they going to possibly say thats of interest? Fran Lebowitz.the toast of the town; a brilliant writer who almost never writes. General in Boston. I didnt connect with the fact that her father was a lord and that he had it privately printed, and that my father was not a lordhe owned a furniture store and had no intention of having a book privately printed. Speaking to celebrated New Yorker Fran Lebowitz over the phone is an experience as hilarious and eye-opening as one would imagine it to be. And the truth is that most families have no smart ones and no pretty ones. . There were maybe 40 poems, the only poems I ever wrote. I believe Im a great friend. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. But to this day I have never seen a worse movie. CLEMENTE: Did you take drugs before you were 19? Lebowitz: Because I was 19 years old. Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. You can blame certain things on me, but not Donald Trump. These four guys figured out how to lift New York out of this dire financial condition with the campaign I Love NY. I hated this thing. Your email address will not be published. Im not a nervous person. My parents did. I always was. Lebowitz: I see no reason to get up before one oclock except to watch Family Feud. Some years ago, Lebowitz sold a proposal of a novel entitled "Exterior Signs of Wealth," a reference to a French conspicuous-consumption tax figured on the basis of display of wealth. Fran Lebowitz, ace epigrammatist, is further a first-rate conversationalist, a hall-of-fame bibliomaniac, a chronic self-caricaturist, a gal-about-town, the soul of the city, a snappish social . I write so slowly that I could write in my own blood without hurting myself. I clearly had one of those eating problems, but I didnt know what they were. LEBOWITZ: It may just be the offers Ive had, but generally, I think theres just more to say no to. And that is the only place I have those columns, because when I moved from my first horrible apartment, I had every Interview, ever. There were just tons of these and I never waited tables. At twenty-one, she began a column, I Cover the Waterfront, for Andy WarholsInterviewmagazine, before moving toMademoiselle. Fortunately they didnt, so its not around to haunt me. When she started realizing cigarettes were missing it never occurred to her to accuse me, so she went to the supermarket where she bought her cigarettes and told the manager that the boys who worked there were stealing packs out of the cartons. They dont know what anything is, so they have to make it up. And I would always give it back. Not at all, because I was going as a servant. I mean, it is pretty shocking. She has published the novels Annie John (1985), Lucy (1990), The Autobiography of My Mother (1996), Mr. Potter (2002), and See Now Then (2013). Aside from the collected Talk Stories (2001), her nonfiction works include A Small Place (1988), a reckoning with the colonial legacy on Antigua; My Brother (1997), a memoir of the tragedy of AIDS in her family; and two books on gardening, My Garden (Book) (1999) and Among Flowers: A Walk in the Himalaya (2005). Fran began her pro writing career at 20. But all the girls I knew when I was young who had to workthere were rich girlsbut the ones who had to work were waitresses. There is only nervousness or death. And a rooming house is different than a boarding house because there were no kitchens. But, of course, Ive always been old at heart. My first school punishment was sitting in the corner in kindergarten wearing a Band-Aid over my mouth and holding up a sign that said I am a chatterbox. That was my first run-in with authority. My mother and father thought that because I didnt go to college Id probably end up working in the five-and-ten. More information I was pulled out of school to take care of my youngest brother while my mother went to work, and when she realized I hadnt been looking after him properly, that I had been reading instead, she gathered all the books I had stolen from the library over the years and burned them. Go back. I think that would solve both problems. I remember what year that was. You see a young girl wearing a headscarf, and standing next to her is a Hasid. I didnt lead a riot or set fire to the gym or do anything James Deanish. For instance, I, unfortunately, take the subway a lot. I dont remember who published it. There are more male writers who own guns than any other profession except police officers. I was a poet for about nine months. Then to Merits. CLEMENTE: So everything that you write is written by hand? But all the rest of them were, including Jeb Bush. Lebowitz: I have to say I have only written back to important people, people in the publishing business. Twenty-five people sitting in the room staring at you while you are thinking. We were all really jealous of him. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. But what would also be impossible, would be to write on one of those word processors. Every single one. I once read that deer are in the rodent family, and I still believe this. They used the big Big Apple sign to lure these people who hate New Yorkbecause everyone hated New York thento New York. I never watched TV at night because my mother put me to bed at 7:30 until I was 12. No, Im just intrigued by them, because, to me, theyre like talking animals. He was the most inventive cabbie I ever met. Fran Lebowitz. Why dont you just put some of your books in storage? And I always say the same thing: What if I told you I had four children? It was terribly disconcerting because I knew that they werent going to cure me. Homesicknessthis kind of interrupted loveis a big element in your work. In "Pretend It's A City," Lebowitz talks about many subjects, including growing up in New Jersey with parents who raised her to be a wife and mother, what's happened to New York City since she. After I moved to New York, I modeled for people like Steven Meisel. . Were you expected to criticize what was going on? At least to my face. After the latters death, the former mysteriously disappeared. A childrens book, Annie, Gwen, Lilly, Pam and Tulip, came out in 1986. I just talked too much. And I reviewed those. But at a certain point, you hit your limit, and thats it. I have a real aversion to machines. Since 1974, High Times Magazine has been the #1 resource for cannabis news, culture, brands and marijuana legalization laws. And now I eat a steak before I write, like a prizefighter. In my grammar school we got extra credit for extra book reports. I dont know howbecause when I was young, boys didnt type. LEBOWITZ: I only know how many there are because for the last several years Ive moved every five minutes, so theyre counted. . An interview with the late, great actor, comedian, and cannabis fan Richard Belzer (1944-2023). Stay home! Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. And then, that machine is waiting for you, just humming uh-huh, yes?. If I know its the last day, I always do it. I wanted to be a beatnik. At twenty-one, she began a column called "I Cover the Waterfront," for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine. But I did actually graduate from high school, because I took the New Jersey High School Equivalency Test. And its not just New York; its the whole world. You have to say fuck, you have to have these kinds of sex. I like Ebony too, but its no Sepia. Fran Lebowitz is an American author and a public speaker. CLEMENTE: Did you talk with the clients of your cab? . Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. I like Mel Brooks, especially the 2,000-year-old-man records with Carl Reiner. Rare Vintage Andy Warhol's INTERVIEW Magazine, September 1981, featuringCover: FRAN LEBOWITZ w/ feature interview by JOHN WATERS (HYSTERICAL! Like there is an American family where someones supposed to be president. So in New York we have zillions of different kinds of people, many of them hate each other, but violence based on that hatred is really uncommon here. Thats the problem. So every time I move, they have to be moved around, and I always fight with this guy when we do this, because he is a private librarian, which means, generally, he works for very rich people who never read their books. On the other hand, in the last few weeks, a couple of times I had dinner with people where I was the only American at the table, and I was yelled at for Donald Trump, like he was my fault. I answered Steve Pauls telephone and was a general schlepper and errand girl for him, and I drove for him. I remember it because they gave me the topic: What was the effect of AIDS on the culture? Why did your family send you to America? To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. In the case of most good writers the writing is better than they are. I saw a group-therapy movieand the whole thing took place in redwood hot tubs with people screaming their problems at each other. The years have gone by, but she is still tall. Its very disconcerting to be in the basement of a night club at ten oclock in the morning reading poetry on a stage with a spotlight on you and no one there. Good Books Books To Read Acceptance Speech National Book Award Wordsmith Great Words Ex Libris Reading Material Women Humor More information . You cant do it. So I remember I said, Look, if you dont like it, give it back to me. After nearly half a century as a journalist, author, social critic and "talker," the quintessential. ever react to your devotion to their product? My mother came from Dominica, and the thing about those little islands is that people from one island or the other dont like each other. My fathermy stepfatherhad gotten ill, and my parents had three boy children. And a piano player is sitting there as well. And you didnt have to think about money every second. And as Fran took on polyester, landlords, press agents and pop psychology, her reputation grew. I was caught all the time. January 30, 2011. He was the only person who took me seriously enough to ban me. I write with a pen. Metropolitan Life, published by E.P. Not so much to put anything in its place as to give an account of what had happened to me. Ive never seen the Kardashians; Im not sure who they are. Here's what started happening: A few years ago, kidsand by which I mean, my friends' kidsstarted coming up to me and saying, 'Fran, where'd you get those vintage glasses?' And I said, 'They . . I would have liked to have met Nabokov. Fran was raised in Morristown, New Jersey. I had never really read any poetry, so it was a completely invented style. But there was a myth about her. Would you say, You just cant afford to house four children. She never really wrote anything else and has since made her living on the social commentary speaking circuit. February 10, 2022 Fran Lebowitz doesn't care what you think, unless you're carrying a gun. I used to start at midnight, but thats gotten pushed up, so now its common for me to start at three in the morning. Fran Lebowitz, the writer, cultural critic, and professional raconteur, spoke with me over the phone via landline, as she famously doesn't own a cell phone or computer. But I moved into that apartment in 1970 or 69; there was no ceiling in the bathroom. You have an idea for an app? The first time I ever came to New York by myself, I snuck to New York on a bus and bought a pair of bongo drums with all the money Id saved my whole life, which was $12. So we always have this fight, because I have a biography section, and he doesnt like that, because its so inelegant to have a biography section. What could they be thinking? CLEMENTE: I know you follow politics, and I always thought you would make an excellent mayor of New York. At the beginning, every day, you asked me a hundred questions about myself. LEBOWITZ: I dont cook. Light? They had one guy who was like an Elvis imitator, only he imitated Oscar Wilde. Thats really interesting. I read How to Be a Naked Bus Driver and My Brother Was an Only Child. Because I had an ounce of marijuana. FRAN LEBOWITZ: The blood pressure or the air pressure? CLEMENTE: I think in your life youve said no more than yes. And with AIDS, a whole generation of gay men died practically all at once, within a couple of years. New Yorkers, weve seen Donald Trump for, like, 30 years; we know who he is. I also wrote plays for my cousins to perform at various family gatherings. Especially really horrible ones. I used to like this guy Milt Kamen. Comedian and podcast host Bill Maher pushed back against author Fran Lebowitz in his upcoming "Club Random" podcast when she suggested that schools have gone off the deep-end because of Republicans. FRAN LEBOWITZ. I remember the darkness of being sent awaysheer misery of a kind that I didnt know existed. Fran Lebowitz was born on 27 October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, USA. Plus they are paid by the minute. The essays were published inMetropolitan Life(1978) andSocial Studies(1981). - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. High Times: What are your favorite magazines? "And then we did it the Saturday . The terrace that starts at the back door ends in a border of stones; the lawn, planted with thousands of daffodils, slopes down to a thickly shaded creek. I used to be able to do it without feeling it, but now Im in bed for three days afterward. I would read it to him, because you cant read my writing. I didnt have any adventures. I still have the clothes I bought at Bonwit Teller. And, of course, New York was always more expensive than any other place in the United States, but you could live in New Yorkand by New York, I mean Manhattan. Lebowitz: The Village Vanguard. It reminds me of when a choreographer I know was creating a ballet. I just dont like domestic life. Meeting James Joyce would be more on the order of sightseeing, like seeing the Washington Monument or the Jefferson Memorial. They also deserve him as candidate, all these so-called mainstream RepublicansI dont know what thats supposed to mean. Lebowitz: No. Fran Lebowitz contains multitudes: author (with a decades-old writer's block), journalist (Vanity Fair and Interview, et al. I reviewed lots of movies that never opened in New York, only in drive-ins. Its not human nature. Shes really not our type. I was home sick when I was expelled. Had COVID-19 not been the new reality, we probably would have met at some vintage New York landmark, like The Players Club or McSorley's Old Ale House. I didnt want to have my consciousness expanded, I wanted to have it restricted. 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