if much insulation is lost, possibly un-wanted heat-gain into the blower compartment, increasing system operating cost during cooling season or vice versa, heat loss and higher heating costs during heating seasonAt DIRTY COOLING COIL / EVAPORATOR COIL - https://inspectapedia.com/aircond/Clogged_Evaporator_Coil.php we describe a blocked coolign coil and several problems that occur if insulation falls onto the cooling coil surfaces - on your system that might not be in the same area as the damage you describe.I wouldn't sweat a trivial nick or an inch of disturbed material but if the insulation is missing entirely over parts of the blower compartment or is loose enough to get drawn in I'd have it replaced. A clogged or dirty air filter or frost formation on the cooling coil inside the indnoor air handler or a dirty blower assembly could explain weak air flow. 0000017763 00000 n To check that the level of cooling of air is reasonable please, 2014 - Barb said: when the air conditioning system is running we hear these clicky sounds definitely traced to the ductwork. When the axillary heat comes on, the house gets warm, but at a cost! InspectAPedia tolerates no conflicts of interest. 0000017882 00000 n i was a snow bird i set my humidistat at 80 and my temp at 68 now they say you must set your humidistat at 50 55 is this correct thank you, I just purchased a theme a.c. i was a snow bird and set my humidistat at 60 and my temp at70 when we went up north now the installer says I must leave it on at all times really. It is not a split unit. The proper repair is to clear the blocked condensate drain. 0000017208 00000 n The chilled water is provided by a district cooling system. I suspect you need a repair tech but it would be embarrassing if we found the trouble were a dirty air filter. (Feb 1, 2015) Avery said:You've got everything covered except the price? Replaced and is working. If not you'll need to change it. Even if Whirpool no longer sells this model, where can I get info on the unit? On 2017-07-31 (mod) said: trapped ducts? My outside unit fan is barely turning. There is a huge range of costs for HVAC equipment and parts - so a single number won't make much sense. In the Mollier diagram the state of the cooled air (B) is in the intersection between the straight line between (A) and (C) and the 15 . He says that the pan unit needs to be replaced at cost of about $400. Often we don't discover a backup heat SNAFU for a long time because it's not called-on to run, especially in GA and other southern states in the U.S. and you'll see our diagnostic articles for that topic. Conditioners. 0000043070 00000 n 0000017423 00000 n We turn it on, it kicks on and the outside fan and inside blower seem to be working properly. I had 2 blinking lights on the pc board, and according to it, that indicates its "normal". ; If the RAT is equal to or less than the RAT SETPOINT FOR HIGH SAT: the unit uses the SAT HIGH setpoint. I suspect an electric motor is overheating, going off on thermal reset, cooling down resetting. 0000007494 00000 n HVmL[U~R8f41WBf~l[P?8$4nYiu-[u[JqS41[h1& ;src@R@'}YsMn>EvP+6 (IT(hmWVhvC};3tTwE?VFGW$ygOn1AR`:9]l1q`~;_\>\}=V'p}!t,R1#))a71&a>(G2T.&T<3%bI%p .a%`PBp+dp&)r[{z]N=WD3(GL:G)h ;oRv,gBL8'&R 86#;] IU|EasU&g>e? The error code 12 on some HVAC systems says you're calling for heat and not getting it: I suspect a failed fan limit switch or limit control. 0000015042 00000 n endstream endobj 4266 0 obj <> endobj 4267 0 obj <> endobj 4268 0 obj <>stream The YORK 50 ton to 65 ton unit resets the active COOLING SAT setpoint based on the return air temperature (RAT). 60 hertz (71 pages), Sunline 2000 gas / electric single package air conditioners (20 pages), Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Fig. endstream endobj startxref property damage or personal injury for improper service procedures 0000007823 00000 n The thermostat will just have "WAIT" and after a period of time, 5 mins or so, the unit will start again and try to raise the temp but only about 1 degree before it cycles off again. %PDF-1.4 % Air is not really cooling. The default is 60.7F. The outside unit (condenser) is running as is the air handler. New AC unit installed. It's time to call a trained HVAC technician. (Dec 18, 2015) Anonymous said:Compressor starts and stops n and off. Goodman is no help--they say they no longer have manuals for this unit built in 2005. Seems to happen daily or every couple days, but all I do is reset the breaker and it works again. trailer << /Size 447 /Info 257 0 R /Root 260 0 R /Prev 388150 /ID[<9c9adb6447156adb91c835487fbd2480>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 260 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 253 0 R /Metadata 258 0 R /PageLabels 251 0 R /Outlines 263 0 R /PageMode /UseOutlines /OpenAction 261 0 R >> endobj 261 0 obj << /S /GoTo /D [ 262 0 R /Fit ] >> endobj 445 0 obj << /S 1554 /T 2077 /O 2173 /L 2189 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 446 0 R >> stream ; SAT RESET METHOD sets to RETURN AIR. Steve it sounds as if your compressor/condenser is probably working since you see intermittent cool air. 0000014294 00000 n TXV inside, (July 14, 2014) Anonymous said:Control board or sensor? Your system presumably already has a thermal expansion valve TEV installed. The default is 60.7F. Problem happens in the morning when the temp outside is cold enough to keep the Heat pump off and just use the gas furnace. Something like a low refrigerant charge (find and fix the leak) or a defective refrigerant metering device could be at fault. The units are completely assembled on rigid, permanently attached base rails. Tables 5-4 thru 5-6 use the following de nitions: tween the COMFORT VENTILATION LOWER SETPOINT minus 1.0 F and the COMFORT VENTILATION UPPER SETPOINT plus 1.0 F. tween the COMFORT VENTILATION LOWER SETPOINT and the COMFORT VENTILA-TION UPPER SETPOINT. 0000010968 00000 n AC there are articles in this series that describe repair processes, basically beginning with accurate problem diagnosis. 0000011233 00000 n 0000017097 00000 n the major areas of investigation to be followed in diagnosing all types of problems with air conditioning systems and heat pump equipment. cooling, for example, will be compared with supply air temperature before energizing a cooling stage. YORK Model DCG units are single package air conditioners with gas heat designed for outdoor installation on a roof top or a slab. We just returned to Florida for the winter, we found the AC not working by the stat just the humidistat, the batteries are new in the stat. This still did not work. Repair men keep stating that it's blowing out cold air. Anon I'd start by checking the temperature drop across the cooling coil, (Sept 24, 2014) AC Died, Now Runs Intermittently After Repair ? ], Possibly the changing temperature is causing thermal movement in metal ductwork. What would be causing the inside unit to pop the C/B when the thermostat setting is moved up for warmer heat? According the psychometric chart the recommended Supply air temp. Where else can we look? Any idea? YORK home comfort systems deliver even temperatures and effective . The existing 3 ton blower and heater unit were reused. You will need to look at the valve brand and model, then review its capacity rating with the manfacturer's specifications for that device. 2: if compressor capacitor is out of order. (Nov 26, 2014) Michelle said:Heat mode works fine.In cooling mode, air is blowing but not cooling. then compressor capacitor should be replaced. Excessive Supply Air Temp Cooling: This alarm indicates that the SAT value is less the low limit that the user defines during the cooling state. I really would like to get one more season out of the unit. What were you told? It's not normal to see water running on the outside of the unit. CPLE, CPLJ, CPRT, CPLT & HDP Found problem. expansion valve superheat and turning it 0000045134 00000 n I would shut this system off. But as you can read in Pete's comments above, another explanation for an A/C unit that cycles between blowing cool then warm air can be a contol problem that is switching the emergency backup heat on - IF your system is a heat pump. 0000040941 00000 n hbbd``bhGE $X'X@X Sometimes there's also a pump that should be checked. EXCESSIVE SAT (SUPPLY AIR TEMPERATURE) CONTROL This feature is only available on Constant Volume units. 4K (C) in the superheat at or even loss of air flow entirely can be due to a variety of problems with one or more components of an air conditioner or For example, here is an excerpt from Danfoss's description of setting their TEV / Max. If your system has an electrostatic air cleaner installed, that may be a normal noise of the unit zapping dust. The enabling of this feature adds a means to prevent low or high supply air temperatures from being delivered to the conditioned space.If you don't have the service manual we can help you find one. 4283 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[]/Index[4265 436]/Info 4264 0 R/Length 118/Prev 359901/Root 4266 0 R/Size 4701/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream Goodman does not assume any responsibility for Anon if you are sure your thermostat switches are correctly set then I suspect a wiring error or a control board failure. Or see AIR CONDITIONER REPAIR & DIAGNOSTIC FAQs for A/C-#2 - more recent Q&A about A/C or heat pump troubleshooting and repair. (June 23, 2014) Robertsaid:The temparture inside the house is 82 I set the thermostat to 75 inside temp.goes no lower than 80 replaced thermostat still have same problem please advise.Thanks. So I tested it in Cool and it blowed a cool air. (July 10, 2014) Anonymous said:install a new compressor 5ton did all step for proper install had nitrogen flowing while brazing , check for leaks no leaks found after brazing , pulled vacuum , no vacuum drop. The repairman says that there is a condensate collection pan as a part of the indoor unit in the attic of the house and that a drainage line is plugged, and the rising water level in the pan actuates a switch shutting off the fan/compressor unit situated outside the house at grade level. Plenty of air is blowing out of the registers but it is only about 70-71 degrees. 0000008743 00000 n 0000007986 00000 n 0000014239 00000 n still not sure they go out thanks again. Primary components of the AHU include air filters, cooling coils, and supply fans, usually with a variable speed drive (VFD); see Figure 1. (Sept 24, 2014) Anonymous said:for 2 days the lights in the house dimmed for longer then normal before compressor kicked in 3 day no cool air? 0000009927 00000 n If you don't have an installation and operation manual for your thermostat you (or we) ought to be able to find one, at no cost, by seaching for it based on brand and model number. What we learn will help other readers. Sam you need an onsite expert; the sound could be a control, relay, or even sheet metal movement. 0000012942 00000 n 0000008904 00000 n . Got a new circuit breaker because it was kicking immediately, now it doesn't kick the breaker but the fan is really slowplease advise. There's no problem with cooling or fan speed per se.Thanks in advance,Sam, On 2016-04-21 by (mod) If you posted comments here and no longer see what you wrote, please check for your comment in the Reader Q&A found above on this page. 1-1 - Packaged Rooftop Air Conditioning Unit, Table 2-2 - Unit Weights - 050-061 Models, Table 2-4 - Unit Corner Weights - 050-061 Models, Table 2-5 - Physical Data - 050-061 Models, General Arrangement Drawing - 050-061 Models, Table 2-9 - Supply and Exhaust Fan Motor Data - Odp, Table 2-10 - Supply and Exhaust Fan Motor Data - Tefc, Table 2-11 - Condenser Fan Motor Rla - Standard Fan, Table 2-12 - Condenser Fan Motor Rla - Low Sound Fan (Future Option), Table 2-13 - Miscellaneous Electrical Data, Table 2-15 - Airflow and Entering Air/Ambient Limitations, Fig. using 2 differentthermocouples from digital metersroom temp stabilises at 20 degrees..upping settemp.to 28 degrees and compressor keeps runningtemp.records at 20degrees on both meters..possible problemcan it be the evaporator sensor? 0000042001 00000 n (Feb 17, 2014) Northern Beaches Air conditioning said: Many of us try to fix out the problem ourselves only,so don't try this call an expert for check up otherwise it cause more damage. Operational supply humidity (OprSH) OprSH displays the space humidity. Is a central H/A unit and heat works fine. 0000008530 00000 n 0000018420 00000 n (July 1, 2015) InternetLizard said:+NCK Bethesda Md Can you try to find the drainage line and either clean or replace it? What can I do to get my A/C working again. So I figure you're not faced with an obvious problem like a switch turned off. Noticed more frequently as outside air temperatures got cooler. 5 $[ $o 6 $A\F Qb``%F}.4#`;q>J8@ when I turn on my ac instead of cooling the heat comes on. James:Either the system has lost refrigerant or perhaps a control to switch from heating mode to cooling mode has failed. AC died in the middle of this horrendous hot spell. 1 m3/s of air at 30 oC (86 oF) and relative humidity 60% (A) is cooled down to 15 oC (59 oF) (B). 0000006726 00000 n VENTILATION FOR HEATING ENABLED must be enabled. I recently had a new 3 ton 13 seer unit installed. 0000009360 00000 n After about 5 minutes, the A/C shuts off completely, and both blinking lights go out- indicating that either the board is "bad"- or that there is "no power". Ann, no wonnder you're asking - it sounds as if someone didn't realize that EM HT would not be obvious to everyone. Can I repair it at home? (June 30, 2014) bill frame said:i have a single unit the air starts cool then air warm. Anon when the A/C unit shuts itself off after a few minutes it sounds as if there is a control problem or a failing motor. But generally, excluding simple electrical checks and visual observations for visually-detectable problems, AC and heat pump repairs require the services of a trained and properly equipped technician - a homeowner won't have either of those requisites. 0000007549 00000 n 0000014509 00000 n It kicked on, and it DOES blow out of my ceiling vents, and the air is cold. Restricted airflow can cause the unit to cycle on and off rapidly.Check the fan speed settings. 0000014027 00000 n For TE 5 and following sizes, one turn of the The surface temperature of the cooling coil is 0 oC (32 oF) (C). Economizer operation will occur with either, or. 259 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 262 /H [ 4329 1280 ] /L 393460 /E 66645 /N 36 /T 388161 >> endobj xref 259 188 0000000016 00000 n The AHU has a . Thanks for the follow-up. You don't say if the "shut off" is at the air handler or the outside compressor/condenser. 0000008041 00000 n If you confirm that your air filter is cleaned and that the supply vents are open and the system won't run normally after pressing the red RESET button (if your AHU or furnace or heater or AC has one) thenIt's time to call for repair. the ac guy showed up yesterday took the cover off went directly to the run cap. 2-10 - Single-Point Power Supply Wiring with Non-Fused Disconnect, Fig. The filter on the inside handler is clean. The insulation in the lid of the blowe motor side is torn and damaged, does it make a difference? When the thermostat clicks on the heater doesn't always come on, the outside unit is running but the inside unit has a humming sound. Is he yanking my chain? No change. Any thoughts? 0000013639 00000 n The unit runs about 15 minutes and the C/B trips. I assummed that the air conditioner would not work as well. It also replaces CAN/CSA-C273.3-M91, Performance Standard for Split-System Central Air-Conditioners and Heat Pumps. Any advice on what I could tell them to check for? . 0000009585 00000 n when i turned it on i noticed the fan on top was spinning but nothing was bliwing inside my home. 0000016619 00000 n I do not know anything about fixing ACs but I am pretty handy and I have been researching on the web. 0000010266 00000 n (July 6, 2015) Melissa said:Air conditioning turns on,blows cool air, but never reaches desired tempwhat could be going on? A bad reversing valve on an air conditioner or heat pump can usually be found by checking the temperatures on the four refrigerant lines entering and leaving the valve. This Air Conditioning Troubleshooting & Diagnosis FAQ (list of frequently asked questions about air conditioners) lists Or determine if the board is the problem? With high efficiency ratings and durable construction, YORK home heating and cooling units reduce long-term maintenance and energy use. Possible causes are a refrigerant leak, ice-blocked coil, crimped or damaged ductwork or other causes. 0000013529 00000 n (Sept 7, 2014) Nick Stull said:Additional information, which may or may not narrow down the problem: After leaving it off for a while (hoping it would start working after giving it a break), we can hear (intermittently) water dripping down the drain pipe, at times a somewhat significant amount. 0000006839 00000 n It would be crazy to replace an entire heat pump system or even a TEV if we later found out that a duct was crimped or disconnected. said. Supply Air Reset from Zone Temperature (Mixed Air) The supply air reset from zone temperature strategy resets the discharge air setpoint for heating and cooling (Figure 5). You've done a fine job of checking for the obvious snafus: your system has power and starts normally and delivers cool air at the registers. Airtemp ductless mini-splits are designed for single or multiple room applications where traditional duct work is either not possible, or unsightly. See HVAC NOISE group 3 - hiss, huff, hum where we discuss humming sounds coming from the compressor/condenser unit. Daniel, (Aug 12, 2014) Air Conditioning Repair Service San Diego said:Thanks for sharing this informative blog on how to repair a broken air conditioner. "SUPPLY AIR TEMP LIMIT FOR COOLING ENABLED . Air is cool coming out of vents, but not cold. All piping, refrigerant charge, and electrical wiring is factory-installed and tested. Kevin I'm confused too. Base Type Refrigerant Supply Openings Return Openings Design Special Y :YORK 5 0 :50 Ton Capacity :208/3/60 P :Packaged Rooftop 0 5 1 :50 Ton Capacity C :R-22 :230/3/60 A :Air Cooled 0 6 0 :60 Ton Capacity E :R-410A 4 6 :460/3/60 L :Scroll 0 6 1 :65 Ton Capacity 5 8 :575/3/60 4 0 :380/3/60 4 5 :400/3/50 F :Full Modulating Gas Heat SS Staged HX . 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