Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? They said "No problem, we'll work around it." They don't understand this stuff. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. I plan on waiting the 6 months. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. For more information, please see our So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 My knees were pretty well shot after 4 years active 11B. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. Just something to think of. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Fraudulent Enlistment. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. On the way to Meps we got a call from the Chief who asked us if we had ever been asked to lie, had criminal charges etc. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. All Rights Reserved. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. Thanks! Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. Same with another section. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. One new winner* is announced every week! Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. (Navy). Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. You must log in or register to reply here. I had the surgery in august of 2014. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. 4,250. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. We can't definitively know the answer to these hypotheticals, but we do know that the military would have never prepared them for it because they never were evaluated. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. I was planning on saying the wrist scar was from jumping over the fence as a kid or something like that. My only option is to wait another month just to go back to get a 'check up', costing me precious time and money again, without insurance, pushing back my MEPS appointment another month or two. Any advice? You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. if the issue will not comprise your ability to serve in your unit and MOS, keep your mouth shut.. What about me? A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. uuugh, it was hot. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. HELP!!!! If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. You will never become a United States Marine. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. They do that at the School of Infantry. Dont lie. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Disclose EVERYTHING. Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. What is the worst that can happen? Am I in danger like my friend said? What's the deal? Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. Privacy Policy. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. You're still not getting it. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. He. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? So what should I do: should I call him and polk the bear? When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Anyone with any experience or advice? 48.8K. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. KUDOS! I was honest at MEPS. Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? JavaScript is disabled. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Take the advice and think on it. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. You were torn and want to be honest. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. Press J to jump to the feed. A magnifying glass. 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