pow Feb 18, 2017 pow Marksman Feb 18, 2017 #1 It doesn't appear that this would be legal to posses in OK? Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! But if you use the Blade on a firearm that requires a large adapter of some sort, please make sure that you only use the dimples up to the point that you remain below the 13.5 length. Ive personally been given verbal instructions by the ATF before on their interpretation of the law which were later proven to be 100% inaccurate. S145775, 51 Cal.Rptr.3d 707, two California Courts of Appeal held that claims for misleading advertising under the CLRA required proof of both causation and reliance by each plaintiff and every member of the class. Stay below 13.5 and according to ATF, its okay to shoulder a Shockwave Blade. Slots are only for a noose. WebThe SB Tactical Mossberg 590 Shockwave Stabilizing Brace provides a third point of contact for your 12-gauge shotgun. I recently purchased a 10.5 inch AR15 pistol with shockwave gun holder and would like to know if I can wear the shockwave blade gun holder in 2019. Email: sales@opticsplanet.com, 9AM-7PM CT Mon-Fri I used to have a Primary Tactical has a variety of Rifle Tools for your gunsmithing needs. Just curious, Is it now ok to shoulder the brace on any weapon? I would prefer it without the rabbit/mule ears, but it had the chokes and was there when I could get it so ears I got. In both the In re Tobacco Cases II (2005) 123 Cal.App.4th 617 [20 Cal.Rptr.3d 693], review granted Feb. 16, 2005, No. Primary Tactical offers a great selection of firearm holsters for your handguns. WebFEATOL Wrist Brace for Carpal Tunnel, Adjustable Wrist Support Brace with Splints Right Hand, Small/Medium, Arm Compression Hand Support for Injuries, Wrist Pain, Sprain, Or do you think the ATF might see this as a kind of recoil cushion? I do not see anywhere in the ATF newspapers about the shockwave shotgun. All customers get FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon. Mossberg 590 Shockwave legal in Oklahoma? So there you have it. You only need an AR adapter to attach the buffer tube and blade. I found it strange. this is classified by the ATF as a weapon, not a pistol, rifle or shotgun. Can I use one or all three of these slots to attach a traditional or single-point sling? The entire purpose of these pistols is for us to give the ATF a middle finger. Ours doesn`t have a belt to begin with. When you buy the Shockwave, make sure you don`t saw the back and replace it with a shoulder rest. Just because you find it for sale doesn`t mean it`s legal. In doing so, the Meyer court seeks to accomplish part of the broad remedial scheme of the CLRA which authorizes trial courts to issue injunctions to enjoin practices proscribed by the Act. Because the Texas definition of a shotgun is broader, the shockwave was likely considered a short-barrelled firearm under state law. I haven`t released my Shockwave Raptor yet, but I could only imagine what one of them will say when I do . Ironically, Mossberg is sending shockwaves through Texas. WebComprehensive Orthodontics - Adult. The Mossberg Shockwave is a pump-action shotgun that has been designed for personal defense and is now legal in most states. It also says in line 4 that the removal of the belt is done if it is not valid as an orthodontic appliance. I've had my Mossberg Shockwave for a little while. The Mossberg and TAC 14 are fine as is. (He was naturally very knowledgeable about the subject and very nice about it, even though he talked on the phone all day and repeated himself ad nauseam.) NDZ Safety Selector & Follower. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Thank you, Chris.M I`m just wondering if the ATF has changed its definition of pins again. 9AM-5PM CT Sat-Sun (Chat & Email Only). (Citing Civil Code 1780(a); Massachusetts Mutual Life Ins. Primary Tactical has a great selection of blemished rifles at discounted prices from the brands you know and trust. Whats the matter Porky? The Tac-13s barrel is an inch shorter than the Shockwave and its gas piston driven, its also considerably shorter than my M4 SBS. at p. This result was absurd, since Texas law required the registration of the Shockwave with the ATF, but the ATF did not require federal registration. Section 46.05 of the Texas Penal Code criminalizes possession of an unregistered short-barrelled weapon. The legislator corrected this curious result with H.B. Even if you put it on youtube so what?? The blade has been approved as designed without straps. He said, The letter covers all firearm stabilizing braces, including the Shockwave blade. That`s all. Just start off each call by saying all calls are recorded to ensure quality service. WebThe Mossberg 590 Shockwave: Small in size but always big when it comes to performance. MAKE DANG SURE THE BRACE YOU PUT ON A PISTOL WITH A BARREL LESS THAN 16 INCHES IS FACTORY STAMPED OR MOLDED WITH THE WORDS, PISTOL BRACE, TO COVER YOUR OWN ASS! JavaScript is disabled. SB Tactical had falsely advertised that all other pistol struts were legal. Seriously though, Ive never seen a news story about dude arrested for having a stock on his AR Pistol. When and where has this actually happened? Thank God for smartphone audio taping. The brace is legal as an "Arm Brace" only - SO you shouldn't let an ATF agent see you shoulder it - & fire that way. - I'VE BEEN TOLD. Good news for folks like me in states that outlaw SBRs at the state level. CDM Sling & Flashlight Mount. PLUS, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS AND STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE FEDS, USE AND ISSUE FIREARMS THEY SEIZE AND SELL THE REST AND GUESS WHO GETS THE MONEY? As long as I am under the 13.5 measurement of the face, if the trigger at the end of the blade, I am legally able to shoulder it? 796]; Occidental Land, Inc. v. Superior Court, (1976) 18 Cal.3d 355 [134 Cal.Rptr. The ATF has other shit to worry about besides whos shouldering what. at p. I have seen the ATF issue these officers citations for having illegal short barreld shotguns and rifles that they used in the line of duty, that was 1/4 inch too short! 590 SHOCKWAVE FEATURES 12 Gauge, 20 Gauge, and .410 Bore Birds-head grip Clean-out tube Absurd I have to wait 9months and pay 200, and be fingerprinted, just so I can add a vfg. The ATF letter states in the last paragraph that this letter applies ONLY to shockwave 2.0. Such a change would make your Shockwave an NFA object. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I had a brace on my Shockwave, and it worked well, except for one thing. Product: shockwavetechnologies.com/sitelatest/product/black-shockwave-blade-pistol-stabilizer/ I just bought the shockwave holder for my gun and I was wondering if the ATF actually published the letter? Also note: If you`re looking for a 26-inch 12-gauge pistol and you`re not in Texas, check your state`s laws before buying one. About Us Policies Reviews How To. 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As long as you dont red Loctite the set screw in place, ATF considers it to be temporarily placed and perfectly okay to shoulder. (He didnt beat around the bush on this topic.). We should note that modification of the Shockwave is not a good idea. ), was enacted in 1970 to provide manifest protections for millions of consumers throughout California. Intl. Some won`t say and others will say, You have to shoot this through the rifle section and shoot him sitting. Even though I have my p80 in a tactical folding stand. The detail of the band is if an orthosis was designed and made with a bracelet you can not remove it. Disclaimer: These FAQs are meant to provide general information about orthodontic treatment. If so, a formal letter link can be provided for printing. We do not recommend changing the blade or adding straps. There is a letter for both blades that is linked in the product description for each product on our website. THE NFA ACT WAS JUST A TOOL OF GUN CONFISCATION AND CONTROL AND THE WAY FOR THE ATF TO FUND ITSELF! The bill changed the state's definition of a "sawed-off-firearm" to EXCLUDE any firearm with an overall length of at least 26 inches and not otherwise federally regulated. Sign In or Just because you find it for sale doesn`t mean it`s legal. Proudly made in the USA. These Six Barely Legal Gun Products Are Still Widely Available Despite the grant of review, litigation on those topics has continued unabated with mixed results. As I understand it, the only pistol struts ever approved by the ATF were the MPX PSB and the discontinued SB-15. 25.) The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory, Aldo Gucci. So what the ATF decides about a brace is anybody's guess. 2019 additions include a Shockwave with an integrated red dotCrimson Trace Lasersaddle; aShockwave SPX which includes a heat shield, top rail and shell holders; and a mag-fed590M Shockwave with 10 round double stack detachable magazine. THE WHOLE NFA ACT AND THE ATF SHOULD BE ABOLISHED ALL TOGETHER! WebResults for mossberg shockwave brace - OpticsPlanet. Ironically, Mossberg is sending shockwaves through Texas. Streamlight 69602 TL-Racker 1000 Lumen Forend Light for Mossberg 590 Shockwave with Strap and CR123A Lithium Batteries, Black, Box, Kalecope Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy Machine for ED and Pain Relief and Anti-Cell-ulite Treatment ESWT Shockwave Therapy Machine for Back Waist Leg and Golf Elbow Relief Pain, NatraCure Cold Therapy Socks - Reusable Gel Ice Frozen Slippers for Feet, Heels, Swelling, Edema, Arch, Chemotherapy, Arthritis, Neuropathy, Plantar Fasciitis, Post Partum Foot - Size: Small/Medium. S129522, 24 Cal.Rptr.3d 865, and Pfizer v. Superior Court (2006) 141 Cal.App.4th 290 [45 Cal.Rptr.3d 840], review granted Nov. 1, 2006, No. In Law Enforcement applications, a breaching barrel has a distinct purpose to break down a door By entering this website, you verify that you accept the Mossberg Website, O.F. Webful: It facilitates estimation of brace connection rotations necessary to estab-lish the adequacy of a tested brace de-sign; and it is useful in modeling the true brace stiffness, As I see it, the stamps allows you to get That last 10% of function that a real stock brings and alliance of vertical grips. ATF Reportedly Approves Shouldering the Shockwave Pistol Brace, Mediaite Slams The Blaze Gun Giveaway (Fake News! THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES! Primary Tactical has the best selection of night vision optics from the brands you trust. Needless to say, the citizens of this pro-gun state were not happy with this outcome. JavaScript is disabled. Needless to say, the citizens of this pro-gun state were not happy with this outcome. When I read the letter it seemed pretty generic about all pistol braces. THEN MAKE SURE YOU GO WITH THE 13.5 OR LESS BRACE LENGTH AND LOCTITE THE SCEW AND EVEN PUT A STRAP ON IT, REGARDLESS IF IT CAME WITH ONE OR NOT! Yes, the letter is linked in the product description. Is a pistol brace legal on a shockwave? at p. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO USE IT! It clarified the section of the Penal Code dealing with NFA elements by adding language that excludes articles that are not subject to registration with the ATF. Click Here To Go To The Dictionary Of Orthodontic Terms(tm). I will note that it sounds like Shockwave has not received this news from the ATF in writing. Theyve been notified. Judging by the all the recent whatevs rulings to come out on the various loopholes we keep finding, it sounds like someone high up at the ATF really doesnt enjoy his job. You have to laugh at it. Recently, another Court of Appeal in California interpreted the same statutory scheme to impose rigid standing requirements on plaintiffs, despite the broad language of the statute and a prior decision of the California Supreme Court interpreting the statutes requirements that a consumer suffer damage in order to bring a lawsuit under its provisions. If for any It would be nice to keep a copy in my case in case I come across a LEO who knows nothing about the ATF clarification. The shockwave doesnt come with an arm strap. AR-15/.223/300 BLK/450 Bushmaster Muzzle Devices. Show me ONE court hearing if a person that was charged a FELONY for shouldering one of these?? Described by Gov. I have a blade stabilizer that I attached to a Ruger charger using the copper adapter. Take the time to learn about the law! of Commerce Research Association). $9272.82. As I understand it, the only pistol struts ever approved by the ATF were the MPX PSB and the discontinued SB-15. Thanks Scott This is an interpretation of the ATF, the big catch of what I saw is that the pistol struts were approved with AR and AK guns, not shockwaves and the like, which is stupid because a gun holder is supposed to stabilize everything with one hand. When you buy the Shockwave, make sure you don`t saw the back and replace it with a shoulder rest. They never presented the ARF with a bracelet with example. A petition for review has been filed in Meyer and one is likely to be filed in McAdams. On an AR-15, the length of pull for the Blade is approximately 13.13, so no issues there. Was Dunkin Donuts out of chocolate glazed this morning, or have all those years of steroid-use while on duty left you with permanent erectile dysfunction? Shop products from small business brands sold in Amazons store. Compare . Blackacestactical makes a 12-gauge pump firearm with a Sigbrace, but it has a pistol-grip to hold onto. This has nothing to do with warrants given to wiretap. Perplexed Sharpshooter Supporting Member Feb 18, 2017 #2 We had a big discussion about this a little while back; check this thread. If you buy the Shockwave, make sure Here are a few parts that will help you get the very most out of your Mossy. Click Here To Return To The Orthodontic Information Page(tm) Ours are not made with a bracelet, so this part is irrelevant. The Mossberg Shockwave is a legal firearm in Texas. California Legal Guns; Colorado Legal Guns; SB Tactical Shotgun Brace Mossberg 590 Shockwave 10.25" L x 2.1" W. $199.99 $166.29. I have a Baikal Coach Gun (w/ears) and choke tubes. There is a letter for both blades that is linked in the product description for each product on our website. I have one of the older versions of the blade that came with three belt slots but didn`t have straps installed. Legal eagle. Two cases serve to illustrate this point. The blade has been approved as designed without straps. The Mossberg Shockwave is a legal firearm in Texas. Mainly because of the safety button issue. Sign up and get exclusive access to promotions, sales events, pre-order sales & more. I imagine it will be easily printable from www.atf.gov. There is a generic letter that refers to braces in general. (He was naturally very knowledgeable about the subject and very nice about it, even though he talked on the phone all day and repeated himself ad nauseam.) https://www.americanrifleman.org/articl shockwave/, https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog+Tac-14+Pump+12+Gauge+14"+4+1+Black+Synthetic, https://grabagun.com/remington-870-tac-14-12-14-4-blk-shockwave.html, https://www.impactguns.com/remingtoa-magpul-fore-end-4rd-047700812304-81230.aspx. The letter could be used in court. Primary Tactical offers a great selection of firearm bipods for your rifles. Note that modifying the Shockwave is not a good idea. Sbm4, sbx, or shockwave. will have to wait and see what they decide to do about these. I actually swapped out an AFG for a VFG on my Mk18 for just that reason. How could it be legal under federal law but illegal under Texas law? Instead of being faithful, not only to the language but the drafters intent, in enacting the CLRA in the first place, the Meyer court sought to restrict both the language and intent of the CLRA to foreclose legitimate lawsuits aimed at preventing entities like Sprint from attempting to impose provisions in contractual agreements which are directly prescribed in the statute. As we reported earlier in the week the ATF issued a new opinion letter to SB Tactical proclaiming that it is once more legal to shoulder and fire the companys pistol arm brace. I mean there was one story where the Baltimore PD had a shootout with a dindu armed with an AR pistol, but that was the first time Ive ever seen one mentioned in the news. There seems to be lots of unnamed sources being sited one way or the other. This result was absurd, since Texas law required the registration of the Shockwave with the ATF, but the ATF did not require federal registration. You, your physicians, physician assistants, nurses, and physical therapists are the Width: 2.1" Length: 10.25" Weight: 21 oz Material: Black polymer The SB Tactical Mossberg 590 Shockwave Stabilizing Brace is ATF compliant and is US veteran designed. We do not recommend changing the blade or adding straps. I recently purchased a 10.5 inch AR15 pistol with shockwave gun holder and would like to know if I can wear the shockwave blade gun holder in 2019. Replace Lost Retainer. If that's not good enough, buy an 18" riot gun. Or is this something that would be ordered custom. Therefore, the Mossberg shockwave is exempt from Section 46.05 under the new Texas rules and is now legal in Texas. It is described as covering all pistol stabilizing legs on the market, including the Shockwave blade. Available in 4 sizes - one size NEVER fits all! Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. If a cop doesnt like it even if its an original SB brace you could be showing the letter to a judge. 5C22DFDB-21AE-47D8-925C-729BD21C3741.jpeg, EEFDB8A4-A67D-485B-8EB2-EC0D2539E90D.jpeg, E6C47235-C0DD-453E-A615-5F72DA661897.jpeg. defendants began to argue that, in the wake of that initiative, there were rigorous hurdles that consumers must surpass to establish claims of deception under the CLRA. Holy crap. So as long as the LOP is less than 13.5 inches and you don`t attach the blade permanently, is it legal to shoulder? They still seem to sell a lot and use a lot, but it`s a bit of a gray area of interpretation, like everything else with braces. In case you missed it, the 590 Shockwave is now available for sale in Ohio! I've read that the shockwave with a brace is legal in our red state but most of what I saw was a few years Can anyone speak to this? ), In McAdams, plaintiffs alleged that the defendant failed to disclose that its 50-year/lifetime, permanent color, and maintenance-free roof tiles are inherently defective because their material composition causes the exterior surface of the product (including the glaze and slurry-coated color exterior) to deteriorate, degrade and to lose coating and color well before the warranted 50-year useful life of the tiles. Good for him. So Im wary about trusting anything that someone claims to have been told over the phone by an unnamed ATF employee. They want to take your guns because they plan to do something to you that might cause you to shoot them. The Shockwave was approved by the ATF in that same strapless configuration so it would be O.K. These people need to be horsewhipped on national television for either incompetence, or refusal to demand a better legislative framework to operate within; if they recognize the laws are so terrible as to make their enforcement job impossible, Id be open to revising them to at least make sense as far as enforcement, even if not repealed outright as I desire. Ours are not made with a bracelet, so this part is irrelevant. The SB Tactical Mossberg 590 Shockwave Stabilizing Brace provides a third point of contact for your 12-gauge shotgun. Complete AR-15/.223/300 BLK/450 Bushmaster uppers. You only need an AR adapter to attach the buffer tube and blade. Because the nature of the class action is based on an inference of common reliance on this single, specific, alleged material misrepresentation, the Court held, under Massachusetts Mutual, that class treatment was appropriate. ATF Reportedly Approves Shouldering the Shockwave Pistol Brace By Foghorn - April 28, 2017 33 Previous Post Next Post As we reported earlier in the week AFGs are a great compromise, but awkward to use when they are that close to the magazine well. Lol I started laughing at the dimple semantics. I want to make sure I follow the ATF rules, which are quite verbose and difficult to understand. Primary Tactical has a variety of Barrel Tools for your gunsmithing needs. Banshee, what sort of price are we looking at for the 870 version? 38], the Court of Appeal in Meyer construed the terms suffer and damage in the CLRA to require unambiguously that consumers suffered some kind of monetary harm or personal invasion of their rights before they could legitimately file a lawsuit under the CLRA. Mossberg & Sons, Inc. Copyright 2023, Mossberg Expands 590 Shockwave 12-Gauge Offerings, Mossberg Introduces 590M Shockwave 12-Gauge Pump-Action. ), was enacted in 1970 to provide manifest protections for millions of consumers Ironically, Mossberg is sending shockwaves through Texas. Recently, Tech Branch told me that ATF is working on an industry FAQ that will answer all questions. VERY SIMILAR TO THE VOLKSTEAD ACT DURING PROHIBITION! Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Bodyprox Ankle Support Brace, Breathable Neoprene Sleeve, Adjustable Wrap! With an overall length of 26.3", the path was cleared for the Mossberg 590 Shockwave to be made available for sale in the Buckeye state. Am I missing something? SB Tactical had falsely advertised that all other pistol struts were legal. There is a generic letter that refers to braces in general. The best selection of electronic sights youll find from the brands you trust. The best selection of mounts and bases for your optics that youll find from the brands you trust. I've wanted a coach gun with tubes for a good while and this one became available at the shop when I was working there so I grabbed it. Shoot them in the crotch. Completed AR rifles and pistols at great prices. HELL YES THEY WILL AND YOU ARE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS IF YOU WANT TO RISK PAYING A $10,000 FINE AND 10 YEARS IN THE PEN BUNKING WITH BIG BUBBA AND HIS CREW, THEN HAVE A BALL UNTIL YOU RUN INTO THAT HARD ASS OFFICER OR YOUNG RECRUIT OUT OF THE ACADEMY OR AN OFFICER THAT DID NOT GET LAID THE NIGHT BEFORE, THAT WHIPS OUT HIS HANDY DANDY TAPE MEASURE KEY CHAIN AND CHECK YOU! Section 46.05 of the Texas Penal Code criminalizes possession of an unregistered short-barrelled weapon. I have a laser and light on my Tac 14 and have no problem scoring #4 buck shot hits at 20 yards. They still seem to sell a lot and use a lot, but it`s a bit of a gray area of interpretation, like everything else with braces. At the time of its enactment and in the ensuing 37 years, as written, the CLRA is the most far-reaching consumer protection statute in the United States. And yes, you can wear a blade orthosis. As I understand it, the only pistol struts ever approved by the ATF were the MPX PSB and the discontinued SB-15. Is the blade legal without the belt, the one I bought at a gun fair didn`t have the belt in the package? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Is there some sort of Cliffs Notes cheat sheet for AR types/calibers/action and what combination of gack is legal with what? SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT DO YOU THINK A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND ESPECIALLY THE ATF AGENTS WOULD MEASURE THE LENGTH OF YOUR BARREL AND MEASURE THE LENGTH OF YOUR BRACE AND CHECK FOR RED LOCTITE!!! Meet me, Jesus, meet me in the middle of the air, if my wings should fail me, Lord, please meet me with another pair, so I can die easy. Who Is selling them? And why would anyone want to SBR their AR pistol now? It bolts directly onto your Mossberg Shockwave and gives you the ability to equip an AR-15 Primary Tactical has a variety of Handgun Tools for your gunsmithing needs. You hear that, boys? It clarified the section of the Penal Code dealing with NFA elements by adding language that excludes articles that are not subject to registration with the ATF. FOR MEDICAL ADVICE SEE YOUR ORTHODONTIST. $531.22. He says the brace needs to be unmodified from the version which was approved by the ATF. I have an HK 416 .22 pistol and I want to attach the Shockwave 2.0 blade and buffer tube to it. Yes, the letter is linked in the product description. I've shot it a little and it's a neat little gun. Also note: If you`re looking for a 26-inch 12-gauge pistol and you`re not in Texas, check your state`s laws before buying one. Direct link to letter: shockwavetechnologies.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ATF-approval-letter-31OCT17.pdf Dude Florida ranges are strange when it comes to braces. Unfortunately, McAdams is not the last word. When the Shockwave was first introduced, it appeared to be an illegal firearm under Texas law. I have read all the above posts and there is no mention of links or download options. THIS ACTS JUST LIKE THE VERTICAL FOREGRIP! I have read all the above posts and there is no mention of links or download options. Some cops probably dont even realize sbr need a stamp. Such a change would make your Shockwave an NFA object. Methodology 2023 by the author. 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I haven't played with it on the range yet, but I want to eventually play with loads and chokes at some point. The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ;Color=Black;Gauge=12 Gauge;Make=Mossberg;Make/Model=Mossberg|590;Material=Polymer;Model=590. A brace doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because it can't aid in one handed firing. Staff will ban the offender, and I will implement an IP ban. There were a couple caveats to that approval, namely that the brace needs to be unmodified from the version which was approved by the ATF (arm strap and all). IF YOU HAVE A BARREL LESS THAN 16 AND A PISTOL BRACE ON THE WEAPON, DO NOT PUT A VERTICAL FOREARM GRIP ON IT, PERIOD! Therefore, the Mossberg shockwave is exempt from Section 46.05 under the new Texas rules and is now legal in Texas. BracesInfo.com provide no warranty and accept no liability for the information disclosed here. It would be nice to keep a copy in my case in case I come across a LEO who knows nothing about the ATF clarification. He said, The letter covers all firearm stabilizing braces, including the Shockwave blade. That`s all. Click here To Go To The Dental Information Page For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. WebProduct Overview. TTAGs sources hadindicated that other products were not included in the approval, but the people behind the Shockwave brace say that they have been given the all clear from the ATF as well. The method of operation is to private message you and tell you that you should contact such 'n such person at a given email address. Because the Texas definition of a shotgun is broader, the shockwave was likely considered a short-barrelled firearm under Nice set-up, US. Posted December 15, 2021. Some idiot go write a letter! 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