Im sorry, Im a little unclear. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). Are they guiding and leading a flock ( a church )? Do you think the stretching feels good? And if I perish, I perish. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. Now to Him who, in exercise of His power that is at work within us, is able to do infinitely beyond all our highest prayers or thoughts-- World English Bible Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Young's Literal Translation If you need more examples, simply go to YouTube and type Priscilla Shirer sermon into the search bar. Elizabeth. I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. Wow, I found Ms. Shirers book Fervent very helpful and uplifting. After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. Mark 7:31-37. I do not think the bible says anything about women speaking in public as long as their not pastors, and she is not talking to men she is talking to ladies. I can tell that just from your comment. The result is that those doctrines and beliefs often conflict with Scripture because theyre not based on Scripture but a fallible personal experience. MATTHEW 14:16 Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. Our desire is not only for all to understand His written Word but for all to experience His Power! In our modern If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. I am a born again Christian. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. It often times fails. 18:15-18), although I would add: The minute someone puts something on Youtube, Face Book, Twitter, or any other social media, or public outlet for that matter, your proof text falls flat in on itself, because more than anything this text deals with proper Church discipline. I read myself into scripture, too! NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. I just do not think its right to judge anyones ministry it causes division with in the body of Christ why cant we just celebrate each other then we can learn from each other. One thats not a promotional tape? Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Michelle, what do you think about this article? Grace&Peace in Christ brother travis & sister tori, Thanks so much, Travis. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. Like The Gospel Coalition, CARM, Tim Challies, etc?) On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. Warning people away from false teaching is not gossip. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? It means to trust that the Bible has all the answers and truths we need to live a holy and pleasing life before Godwe don't need anything beyond what God has provided for us in His Word (see 2 Peter 1:3 ). But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. Maybe a good example of Priscilla using eisegesis to teach scripture? Could you please show me the Bible verse that says were supposed to be happy for people who achieve financial and popularity success by twisting Gods word, teaching false doctrine, and walking in disobedience to Him? Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. Youve come to the correct conclusion about Priscillas teaching, and the Holy Spirit does direct genuine believers away from false teaching (John 10:5), but I want all of my readers who happen across this comment to please make sure (as Im sure Lynette did) you ALWAYS base your beliefs on what Scripture says, not on feelings and impressions. Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up. Deuteronomy 6:4 ESV / 4 helpful votes Not Helpful "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. I guess I have to do some research on those folks. Id be delighted to hear back from you, Elizabeth. Christianity and Adversity: Corona Virus and a Faith Based approach How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. I think the best reward for the reader is to take all those views as complementary and related being parts of the same whole system of interpretation. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. In the first approximately 90 seconds of the video you can clearly see and hear men in the audience, and in her introductory remarks, Prisicilla indicates that she is preaching the Sunday service at this church. Go beyond putting ourselves first. If our feelings, opinions, or experiences contradict Gods word, then those feelings, experiences, and opinions are wrong and we need to repent and believe Gods word instead. Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. Thank you MIchelle Lesley. Their focus is on Christian living type articles, not discernment (which is certainly fine, everybody has his own genre). Heres the thing. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. If a woman is supposedly knowledgeable enough about the Bible to be in the position of teaching and authoring, yet doesnt understand or obey such a basic biblical truth, what does that say about the rest of her knowledge of the Bible? I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help you better understand Gods role for women in the church. Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. In closing out this conversation, I would strongly encourage you to continue practicing what youve said- just study your Bible in a systematic way, using good hermeneutics, and stay away from false teachers like Priscilla Shirer. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 That is why there is so much confusion in the flock, they dont rebuke the error as Paul did, but are now hobnobbing with them.. How is this different?. Watch videos of Shirer speaking, listen to her sermons, read her books, and compare them all with what Scripture says. Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. on that if youre interested. I've done this so that you can learn what it means not to go beyond what has been written and so none of you will become arrogant by supporting one of us against the other. This is not a Church. Thats very wise, and I respect that. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. He saw 1000s come to Christ over a life time of service. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us." Mark 5:32 Verse Concepts And He looked around to see the woman who had done this. Hey brother Saiko Woods! It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. You may not agree with all of these points, but there is enough here to indicate that you should be very wary of getting involved with Priscilla Shirer studies. If you are considering commenting or sending me an e-mail objecting to the fact that I warn against false teachers, please click here and read this article first. As Christians, the Bible is our authority, so its what the Bible says that matters, and thats what I point women to. FOCAL POINT: TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS MUST AVOID. Did anything frighten you this morning? Ill let you know how we continue our course of action. These are sources Im familiar with and consider doctrinally sound, but if someone digs up an article one of them wrote from ten years ago that says something biblically askew, I obviously do not endorse that.) Morning Service Grr! Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. What an encouragement! No where did she usurp authority etc. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. I KNOW this original post is over a year old. Here are my 2.1. I am gonna pray for you. Romans 8:24 For we Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. The New Testament knows nothing of a Christian whos satisfied just to escape hell. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. So I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions regarding your comments before we begin our study? Jesus had employed many graphic analogies using common things that would be familiar to everyone (https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html). And this faith is . If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. Hope this helps, and thanks for the comment :0). Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. It does NOT say, and be baptist. It doesnt. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. No, Im afraid theres no such thing as a false teacher being an entryway into the faith any more than a bowl of cyanide can be a good appetizer before a healthy dinner. Its a complete waste of time. I am more of an egalitarian, but Shirer rubs me the wrong way too. Untold millions of Christians over the last two thousand years have studied Gods word, grown close to Him, matured in their faith, and walked faithfully with Him throughout their lives. THIS PRACTICE WAS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE EARLY CHURCH. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. People who are genuinely born again have a hunger and thirst for studying the truth of Gods word and growing in Christ. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. Matthew 9:32-38. Finally, I agree we should seek out credible sources when reading news reports and things like that where were called upon to simply believe what were being told, but thats not the case here. read more, Scripture: If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. Is she a false teacher? I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. Before I address some of your specific concerns, two things: First, thank you for the kind and civil tone of your comment. Priscilla Shirer is. If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. THIS LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO AN ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN WOMAN WHO APPEARS TO OPEN HER HOME TO BELIEVERS FOR WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. read more, Scripture: I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. In today's edition of The Mailbag: Is it OK for Christian Women to Wear Bikinis? Iam finding that more and moreChristians have to be told this. Going Beyond the Bible by Colin Morris. Jakes church, The Potters House, where, during a Gods Leading Ladiesgraduation ceremony, Priscilla accepted the Lady of Destiny award. There's more to my answer than you might think. Bible Study Workbooks Priscilla's studies help believers to know the truths of Scripture intellectually and encourage them to experience these truths practically by the power of the Holy Spirit. When I participated in Priscillas DVD studyHe Speaks to Meseveral years ago, I found her to be an engaging writer, a witty storyteller, and charismatic speaker. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com I would recommend reading the book reviews and listening to the sermon reviews. If you could give me some rightly handled, in context, chapter and verse Scripture to back up your opinions and beliefs, we could talk about it. The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? Reblogged this on Eternally Secured and commented: Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. Sermon by Rick Crandall ), but 2 Corinthians 6:14ff and 2 John 9-11, among other passages, are very clear that we are not to partner with those who teach false doctrine, which Catholicism, Word of Faith, and many other churches do. Its not like they bend over backwards to exclude men and cant help it if men stay, short of being bodily removed. And the Bible says that women are not to preach to or instruct men, or to hold authority over men in the gathered body of Believers, the church. ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! People Listen In Different Wayscan You Reach All Of Them? The Bible says dont do X, Beth Moore does X. Thats breaking Gods command, which is sin. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; CEB Brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? 3. Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. I KNOW this is a looooong series of questions about Priscilla Shirer that was stimulated by your post. Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. In Japan there was a man in the imperial orchestra couldnt play a note. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! She has been doing so for years. Yes, its a big deal and, yes, I will continue to teach and write about it. Yes, Kenneth Hagin was one of the worst false teachers out there. I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? The word astonished means to be struck with amazement. Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. 2 JOHN Accused is a very loaded, and in this case, inaccurate term. .. that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). I KNOW that you probably dont have the proclivity to clarify your position (youve already stated that you wouldnt/ couldnt reply to questions that are long. or even some reformed guys or women who speak against Schirer. Id also like to recommend my article thats linked at the very top of this page: Answering the Opposition. My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. 15 Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ.. B. #4a I see where you noted that Priscilla uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. Evangelical Dark Web. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-pastored by a woman), Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018, Special Guest Priscilla Shirer (October 11, 2015) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at The Refuge Church (co-pastored by a woman), What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast (October 4, 2020) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon for Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? Priscilla and her husband of 22 years, Jerry Shirer, lead Going Beyond Ministries through which they provide spiritual support and resources to the body of Christ. read more, Scripture: Mark 10:46-53 It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. They are busy caring for their churches. Theres plenty of video evidence of it and witnesses who could testify to it. 1And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things. Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) Here is a short http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com article on Lisa: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, You can also tell a lot about these leaders by what events they speak at: Yet, I noticed in your comments that you did not once appeal to Scripture or support your position with Scripture. (These are not exhaustive lists, I just havent gotten to the next installmets yet :0) Do keep in mind that there are many fantastic male teachers out there, and its perfectly fine for women/womens groups to use materials written by men. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. Together with her husband, Jerry, she heads up Going Beyond Ministries. - Theres lingering sin. - But such as is common to man; rather, except such as is human; i.e. As Christians, we are to follow and obey Gods written word, the Bible, not our own opinions. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. And besides all these big names, arent just claiming to over see a church, they are writing New York best sellers, etc. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. Just got home form a conference defending the faith. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: There are Genesis 24:1-4. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. Holy cow! After the service, people went by the preacher, tired and exhausted. This was very interesting thanks for putting this out there. You decide. Michelle, Dear Michelle~ Thank you for taking the time to answer all my questions! First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). Romans 4:18. As you can see, she has warm words of praise and admiration for Serita Jakes (T.D.s wife). Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. CARM has done articles on Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer, and some other well-known false teachers, which Ive linked to in other articles. 1. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. :0). That preaching to and teaching men is a violation of Scripture is also not an accusation, but a statement of fact. #1 You have noted that Priscilla preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures but I cant find the link. (Im also about 90% Reformed if you didnt get a chance to look at my statement of faith page.). Do you have another links to her preaching or instructing men in the Scriptures? I think it should be obvious that a face to face discussion is different from a written one, so theres no need to go into that. If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1). Priscilla Shirer is not as well known, which is probably why they havent gotten to her yet. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. Do you send women to your articles as a response?. Where does the Bible teach this? As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip.. Defining moments, we all have them. The proper method of teaching Scripture is exegesis. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts , an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic. Baptist. No-one is beyond hope. We're called to not live by our feelings but by faith ( 2 Cor. If you wouldnt follow a male pastor or Bible teacher who was open and unrepentant about committing adultery or shoplifting or getting plowed every weekend, why would you follow any female Bible teacher who preaches to and instructs men? Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. Run as far away from both of them as possible. read more, Scripture: We shouldnt believe just whatever we see on the internet. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. Remember, Scripture, not our ideas and opinions are what we must follow and obey. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? Hi Lisa- I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help answer your questions and give you a biblical understanding of womens roles in the church. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! All of the resources and links Ive included are from credible sources (The disclaimer at the top of the list simply means I have not read everything ever written by every single resource Ive listed. Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. This article is kept continuously updated as needed. Or and be .. I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. 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