And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. You know, like, how does that go? I own one of his guitars and. Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. The majority of people are in favor of womens reproductive rights and health; its others were trying to get to. I see you talking, but I cant hear a thing. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time So she did daytime job. And when I would write these songs, it was never in my mind, oh, I have to record them. Why werent you accepting it? GROSS: What would the right voice for you like, whats wrong what doesnt match? Her new album of original songs is called Take It Like A Man. She also co-founded the country supergroup the Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. SHIRES: I mean, I think theyre pretty good. And how come you didnt know before? GROSS: Well, would you play Take It Like A Man for us? And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. Rock & roll kids just let decisions make themselves. And I had been internally bleeding for a whole lot of hours. (Singing) Time was all Id want. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it, and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. Not standing up for folks is not helping and its not right. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. I heard witchcraft in the whispers and I knew my time had come. GROSS: That your Father had spent 25 years in Alcatraz? We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. Were you just, like, the cute kid who could play but, you know that audiences would go wild over because you were a girl in the band and there wasnt much of that? SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. Amanda Shires. Amanda Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and violin player. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. Shires has released six solo albums, her most recent To The Sunset on the Silver Knife label in 2018. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? You could say its all my fault. Shires told her producer Dave Cobb, who also served as bassist in the album's indie rock-leaning band (with Isbell on lead guitar), "My violin needs to sound like it's in an aquarium, but more bright. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. Say whatever feels better or whatever. Shires has released seven solo albums starting in 2005, her most recent being Take It Like a Man in 2022. And, you know, she. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine I know what the cost is in the octaves of consequence. And Empty Cups wasnt even the hardest one for me to put on there. Weve had legal abortions for 50 years and now, suddenly, a long-held right will be illegal. On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? Theyve ended shows with Neil Youngs Like a Hurricane or Van Morrisons Into the Mystic. Tonight its the Rolling Stones Cant You Hear Me Knocking, and its ecstatic. GROSS: Oh, thats so funny. But I thought, what am I going to do about that in the event that she does go into country music? I had to spend the night with her at work. Which would I rather have? And I was still dealing with all of it two and a half weeks later. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com And Natalie said, I want the one about preaching. And I was trying to sing that song A Little Walk With You (ph). Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. It seems like a simple thing to say, but its really true. And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. And if you want a doctor, Ill examine every inch of you. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? And I am still alive. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. Also, during this time when I was leaving, I was thinking about how Mercy was you know, picked up a kazoo, and she could play a kazoo. "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. So hold on to your thoughts. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires perform at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. GROSS: Well, in 2020, you and your husband, Jason Isbell, recorded a duet of a song you wrote called The Problem. And the song is from the perspective of a teenage couple. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. But if you dont, youre going to be wondering, What didnt I do? I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. The Idol: How HBOs Next Euphoria Became Twisted Torture Porn It was Fault Lines.. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. Teaching himself to hear his own songs objectively has been one of the harder lessons to learn, he says: Its impossible to get that distance for me. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? GROSS: Whoa. Well be right back. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? And I thought if Im going to get any rest, Im going to have to do something about this. Were you in Texas at the time? And I think they probably had conversations that you would, if you were that close to each other, about that stuff and didnt bring it up. GROSS: You know, your husband plays on this album, but the songs are about a bad period in your marriage. I think thats what people keep forgetting. SHIRES: Well, myself and Brandi wrote the song. And your verse, you are somebody who thinks of herself as a healer but was hung in the gallows during the Salem witch trials. So thanks to them as well. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. He asserted that the band would cancel the concert if any venue refused to agree to their requirements. Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. Its all control.. GROSS: You know, youve said that a lot of the songs on this album come from a troubled period of your marriage to songwriter and singer Jason Isbell, who you perform with and who plays on this album. GROSS: I think its time for another break. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. I still miss the way you lean in. You can say I lost my grip. Never one to shy away from his beliefs, Isbell implored his fellow man, in Alabama or otherwise, to get vaccinated, that is, if they wanted to see him perform in person, hoping to make a difference. In 2016 I was going on the road. I mean, many songwriters would say, oh, theyre not about me. Where are our Nashville folks? So lets hear a little bit of that song. I was snared by your wrist. SHIRES: (Singing) Trying not to think of names. If youre just joining us, my guest is Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. This is FRESH AIR. I was lucky. SHIRES: I dont know that well, I dont know that I was going to leave or that Jason was going to leave. I was gifted as a girl. GROSS: Was this your mothers father or your fathers father? When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. Yeah, I can do an excerpt. And my hands are two empty cups. Theres still just as much awe.. I didnt believe it. So I think she did a good job. It was love at first listen. Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. So I would be studying my pieces. SHIRES: We were writing that, and Brandi was like, Im going to take the first one. But they also understood that I was a kid. But his voice is much stronger and clearer than it was in the Truckers. Im your Amanda. To keep the newness from wearing off, for every start theres gonna be a stop. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires say they've turned in their memberships with the Country Music Association, due to the organization's "failure" to acknowledge the You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. And then my mom would drive me down there. And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. This fight is about more than just abortion. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, SWIMMER), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. With artists and concert promoters nationwide forced to confront a surging spike in infections and hospitalizations attributed to the spread of the delta variant, Grammy award-winning musician, Jason Isbell, announced Monday that he and his band, the 400 Unit, will require concertgoers to provide proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to attend all their future shows, whether they are held indoors or outdoors. Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. And she would dance a little bit to The Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. I also received responses from trolls. And Tommy said, if you can hold down that lower third harmony and Id love to, you know, have that spot filled. I dont have certain kinds of fatigue. SHIRES: Sure. And she was doing the bail bonding on the night. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. Tax ID: 26-2810489, Copyright 2022 Fresh Air. What does that phrase mean to you? In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. GROSS: Thats Empty Cups from Amanda Shires new album, Take It Like A Man. Thats such a great song, Amanda. Were proud to be from that area. And I was really into that. Someone saw me sleeping naked in the noon sun. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys, and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And I said, yes, Id love to. Its a lot like writing a song about it. And I return to them often. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. Its pretty obvious.. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. And I also want to thank Zack Sedgefield for playing guitar and also Diana Walsh, who engineered your end of the music and the conversation from your home studio in well, outside of Nashville. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. So theres thinking my thinking is that my granddad married my grandmother knowing that she was pregnant with somebody elses child. This happened to me two and a half weeks before Texas abortion ban went into effect. Because once you have a baby, theres no social programming to help. Hearing Shires spell that out is invigorating. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. It occurred to me the thing that broke my heart the most was when I grew up and realized everything wasnt an adventure, he says. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. OK. I didnt want to do more damage. 99.99%. Thank you for performing for us. I had people threatening me. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. 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And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. And I said, thats all you have to say? Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. SHIRES: Thank you so much. GROSS: So one of the ways you ended up becoming a songwriter as well as a singer and musician was that Billy Joe Shaver heard you play. The sound of silence rings in every room. Long before weathering the isolating COVID-19 pandemic, Shires had endured years of studio experiences where producers and musicians undermined her Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. And that song, its part my story and part, you know, stories I know from friends. And she was also holding down a day job as a single mom. Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. SHIRES: You want to come to the play the show tomorrow night, too? I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. It sounds like you were about to leave the marriage. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. Shires has an MFA in poetry, and she's exacting in her use of imagery to portray sensuality as a force both internal and physical. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. You can keep the car and the house. Former Drive-By Trucker is enjoying a breakout moment with new album 'Southeastern'. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. And he was there for 25 years. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. ISBELL: (Singing) And all I could think to say was. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. GROSS: Well, I want to play a song performed by The Highwomen, and the song is actually called The Highwomen, and its a song sung from the point of view of different women. Editors picks In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. Are they just going to sit around and drink beer? Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. We try to have as much fun as possible singing a bunch of sad-ass songs, he said from the stage with one of the few grins hed allow himself. Amanda Shires is a singing, songwriting. I would have died; my daughter, Mercy, would have lost her mother; my husband, Jason, would be a widower. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. SHIRES: Honestly, a lot of times, my thoughts come to me just in pictures. So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. And why did you want to work it into a song? All the time, the want, the overwhelming volume of breathing. How are we going to police that? Just admit Im what you want. I recorded my interview with her last week. And I know that he likes to help. The subject isnt talked about enough, Shires says. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. This has been the hardest year. Do you need the reasons why? On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. Interracial marriages cant happen. Privacy rights are going to be gone. 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